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CAPA成员代表James Lee(中英文)

2012-06-11 01:28

 

跨国审计质量

 

 

女士们,先生们!

感谢中国注册会计师协会

 

英格兰及威尔士特许会计师协会(ICAEW)拥有138,000名会员,遍布世界160多个国家,在会计、金融领域属于全球领先者,其会员既从事实务,也从事商务。所以,会员们的工作与审计相关甚密。

 

我今天要讲的主题是跨国审计质量,以及它所面临的各种挑战和机遇。

 

而我今天的讲话源自于一种特殊的担忧。

 

如在座各位所知,在美国,过去几年针对在美国上市的中国公司所提起的诉讼案件不断攀升,2009年只有1宗,而到2011年已达39宗,约占全部证券类诉讼案的1/3

 

我今天大致谈谈这些案件以及美国的反应态度,然后,我将从ICAEW的视角继续探讨这可能意味着什么,并基于已有的经验来分析我们或许能够采取的措施。

 

被指控造假总是一个令人不愉快的话题,但是,自从人们开始相互买卖商品,造假就一直存在。

 

各位最为熟悉的案例可能是总部设在上海的德勤华永会计师事务所有限公司,它去年不再参与审计东南融通有限公司。我理解美国证券交易委员会(US SEC)追究德勤华永公司责任的做法,因为后者未能出具与东南融通公司相关的文件。

 

另外两个例子是中国高速频道传媒有限公司China MediaExpress Holdings Inc[1]和嘉汉林业公司(Sino-Forest Corp[2]

 

为什么一时之间会有这么多公司出现问题呢?

 

对中国公司的关注正在产生一些不良后果:

-          关于中国公司的股价——去年晚些时候,约有58家中国公司在美国面临退市,因为他们的股价和市场封顶价大幅下跌,而投资者也不看好他们(做空)[3]-  

-          对于想在美国上市的中国公司,以及其审计人员来说,他们现在可能会面临更为严厉的监管条例。

 

美国的一种举措是开始打击所谓的反向并购[4],不少中国公司便是通过这种方式得以在美国市场上市。去年六月,美国证券交易委员会告诉投资者,反向并购公司可能承担着更多“造假和滥用”风险,所以一直在加紧提高上市标准[5]。而在今年1月份,联邦调查局突击搜查了纽约环球集团的办公室,该公司主要为中国公司办理反向并购的有关事宜。

 

美国公众公司会计监督委员会(PCAOB)正在打算检查为美国证券中国发行人提供审计服务的公司,或者禁止未经检查的中国会计公司为美国登记人工作。而且正在准备与中国证券监督管理委员会达成一项协议,允许两国联合检查中国会计公司,最快可能于2012年年底开始。

 

最近接二连三的坏消息对中国公司来说可谓雪上加霜。这些坏消息并非全都与反向并购有关。

 

例如,免费互联网安全软件公司奇虎360,在香橼咨询公司(Citron Research)提供了一份负面研究报告后被做空。同时,香橼咨询非常关注360将如何以一场主动的信息战来应对[6]。然而目前,奇虎360的股票似乎重新开始攀升[7]

 

当然,从世界各地的经验来看,很显然,当出现一起会计丑闻时,通常会紧跟着出现其他丑闻。

 

安然公司就是一个现成的经典案例

 

安然公司丑闻产生的冲击波,使数十家公司被指控存在会计造假,这可能是因为该行业突然被置于聚光灯下,因而先前可能不为人所察觉的事情现在被曝了光。监管机构可能以前没有意识到会出现这种情况。所以,监管机构、新闻记者以及业内人士开始把更多时间放在风险管理和检查方面。

 

因此,我们也有可能会看到对中国公司的冲击波。

 

当然,这类案例可能直接暴露出两国之间的误解,毕竟两国围绕审计和会计有着不同的准则,甚至可能对如何阐释准则也有着不同的理解。

 

如果真是这样的话,或许到了该清醒的时候。

 

毕竟,保持警觉和透明对于会计行业和良好的审计工作至关重要。不懂法律绝不是借口。所以,任何想在海外上市的公司必须获得准确的建议,知道自己应遵循哪些准则。关于上市,美国的规则相当复杂。

 

我认同中国注册会计师协会(CICPA)的说法,当中国公司通过反向接管进入美国市场,他们并不总是能得到期望的金融方面的建议(部分原因是他们让小公司来操做)。也许这就是争论所在,美中两国在会计准则方面需要更多的趋同。

 

我认为,公平地说,中国会计行业很年轻——还不到30年时间,但它一直在发展、在学习。 跨国审计的确出现了一些难题。会计专业人员越是有经验,就越是不大可能犯错误。因此,不断提高国际商务和国际准则方面的知识甚为关键。

 

而学习需从两个方面入手。在华外国投资者对中国的某些事情不太熟悉(主要是信息披露不足),诸如:

-          对相关权力机构的头衔缺乏独立的核实;

-          给银行的资产凭证作为相关各方私人贷款的抵押物,没有适当地予以披露;

-          资产负债表外交易(例如,看跌期权);

-          使用募集而来的资金,但在上市时不阐明目的。

 

对于中国来说,市场观念当然重要,但终究而言,改进市场观念的最好办法很可能是大力改善公司的治理机制,增强透明的财务报告。

 

这一办法可能有助于阻止投资者“做空”你的公司。

 

如果投资者随时可以获得一切信息,他们(包括其他投资者)就会明白你的股票值得投资。

 

之所以这样讲,主要是有一些前车之鉴。

 

审计是良好财务管理和公司治理的一个必需环节。

 

过去几年,尤其是在英国银行业危机之后,英国、欧盟和美国的审计人员以及监管机构一直面临着较为严厉的批评。

 

英国和欧盟正在进行审计方面的立法,这势必改变欧洲的具体做法,也将影响到该行业的监管工作,特别是会影响“四大”会计公司的职责。

 

就英国的会计行业来说,这是一次自审的机会。

 

ICAEW已经做了大量工作来提高审计质量,实际上早在2002年我们就已开始这一领域的工作,当时我们的最近一次经济繁荣阶段刚刚开始,我在此愿意与各位分享一下。

 

2002年,我们与英国政府合作举行了一次审计质量论坛。

我们的出版物包括201010月刊发并受到高度关注的一篇关于“国际 一致性 ”问题的论文[8]

 

该论文审视了 IAASB 准则如何在国际范围予以应用,并揭示了这些准则本身的一些局限性,审计人员和审计实体合作的方式,以及审计人员识别和解决重大误报风险的能力。

 

该论文承认,任何国家提高审计质量都有一定难度,没有哪个国家的文化可以保证其成功与否。

 

关于对已审计财务报表会产生影响的国家环境,论文总结出五个特征:

政治、经济和商务环境;

法律框架;

教育;

文化;以及

审计的观念。

 

该论文提出了一些有助于应对这些困难的实用解决办法。世界各地的审计人员、商业投资者、标准制定者、监管人员以及政府部门和其他机构可能采取的行动主要表现在以下四个方面:

 

1)  分享经验,统一对审计质量的认识,包括提供更多机会参与国际借调、交换与教育项目、各种论坛等;

2)  在国际准则范围内承认国别差异。这意味着准则既要更多地强调国别差异(如国家索引所示)如何影响审计的风险,也要支持审计人员运用职业判断来解决错报风险,采用的方法要适合于那些出现风险的国家的环境;

3)  推动审计在经济发展中的作用;

4) 支持对审计领域国别差异的研究;

 

ICAEW致力于推进跨国审计质量的一个例子是发行了一套网上培训视频材料,用以剖析职业怀疑及其他关键的审计问题。

安排其中一个监管机构——职业监督委员会主席约翰·凯拉斯先生(Mr.John Kellas)以及ICAEW 多位审计专家,结合审计检查结果举办一些小型讲座,用这些视频材料帮助培训,推广最佳做法。

 

 这些视频材料可免费观看,并可在我们的网站上找到(http://www.icaew.com/en/技术/审计与鉴证/职业怀疑)。

 

我们有一支业务繁忙的审计与鉴证队伍,他们提供刊印材料和技术指导,例如,关于国际审计准则实施、质量控制、相关各方及团体审计等方面。

 

2010年,我们刊发了一份受到高度关注的报告“对银行的审计:危机中吸取教训”,其中审查了一些关键问题以及哪些方面尚有改进的空间[9]

 

想到的建议有很多,这里谈谈最主要的几点:

-          在为银行编制的财务报告中,应该把风险信息集中在一起,也许可通过业已审计的风险汇总报告;

-          在审计委员会报告中应当有良好做法的指南;

-          银行应该核实,与审计人员讨论过的关键判断领域须在关键会计估计中列出,判断结果须在财务报表中披露;

-          审计人员也应更多参与进来,宣传年度报告的前沿领域;

-          最后,审计人员与银行监管人员之间有必要开展更好、更频繁的对话。

 

而我们最新报告,即上周的报告,是关于如何加强银行审计人员与各审计委员会之间的对话。

-          该报告提到了如何在合作与挑战之间寻求合适的平衡,以确保议题得到充分讨论;

-          同时讨论了把审计人员面临的一切挑战展示出来的重要性,以及他们的决心——换言之,需出具证据证明他们运用了职业怀疑;

-          此外,建议在报告审计结果时应使用任何人都易懂的浅显语言[10]

 

 

当然,最初由萨班斯·奥克斯利发起的跨国审计质量行动已得到世界上许多国家的大力推进和发展。

 

欧盟委员会通过其《2006年法定审计指令》推出了监督的程序,要求对欧盟所有国家的管理体制进行监督。最近的《欧盟转型报告》(20122月)肯定了这一方法的成功——尽管目前的审计工作草案还将进一步加强监管。

 

世界各地的监管机构已经开始相互承认,而欧盟在其《转型报告》中提到,澳大利亚、加拿大、中国、克罗地亚、日本、新加坡、南非、韩国、瑞士和美国等国实行的监督和监控与在欧盟国家实施的是同一标准,而另有20个国家目前正在制定的管理体制可能会与欧盟对投资者的保护要求趋同。

 

这种跨国合作确保一种具有一致性的监管,而监督项目有助于提升全球范围的审计质量标准。

 

我认为,这种跨国合作对于提高审计质量至关重要,同时有助于在相关国家范围内加强培训,推广最佳做法。

 

结束语

 

我刚才给大家简要地阐述了英国的一些问题,介绍了我们关于审计质量的一些做法,以及我们如何应对欧洲会计行业面临的挑战。

 

我认为值得深思的是,中国的会计行业还很年轻,中国企业海外上市项目还刚刚起步。我相信,我们能够并一定能应对,目前两国市场上呈现的种种挑战。

 

在英国,我们相信透明度和与监管机构密切配合是市场信心的关键。

 

当然,投资者仍然趋之若鹜地涌向中国,这里的经济增长率说明了一切!

 

谢谢大家!

 



[1]http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-14/中国高速频道传媒有限公司-财务总监-辞职-审计人员-要求 其审计单位德勤华永会计师事务所有限公司去年三月弃之不顾,纳斯达克(Nasdaq)去年年底在经过调查后也把它榜上除名。

[2]http://www.sinoforest.com/dataroom.asp安永国际会计公司审计,独立研究员Muddy Waters去年指控该公司财务造假,然后普华永道国际会计公司(PwC)受邀做了一次独立调查。2012年,对该公司提起了A级诉讼。

[3]

[4] -     -反向并购指某公司并购一家几乎已不再有效益但却是公开交易的公司。通过并购重组,获得并购权的公司可以接管被并购公司已经发行的股份。因此,并购者本身成了一家公开募股的公司,而同时却避开了对初次上市而公开募股公司的种种要求。

-        由于许多人用怀疑的目光审视反向并购公司,所以有这么多通过反向并购方式在美国上市的公司面临法律困境——无论他们总部设在何处,这并不让人感到吃惊。许多人认为,反向并购公司经常遭到审查,因为他们被假定是先天不足、易受质疑的公司。

-        短暂的“繁荣”?

-        不过,另一学派认为,中国证券行业的造假“繁荣”只是短暂的。毕竟,只有大约200家中国公司在美国交易市场进行股票交易。

-        根据基石研究咨询公司Cornerstone Research)的调研,在2007年至20103月期间,只有150中国公司通过反向并购成为美国证券发行人。同一时期在美国初次上市而公开募股的中国公司数量甚至更少,仅有56家。 

[5] http://www.bloomberg.com/新闻/2012-01-27/纽约环球集团-华尔街办公室-受到联邦调查局的搜查html

[6] http://www.prnewswire.com/新闻发布/奇虎360-香橼咨询公司调研报告的回应-133030163.html

[7] http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=QIHU

[8] http://www.icaew.com/~/媒介/文件/技术/审计及鉴证/审计-质量/审计-质量-论坛/审计质量-国际一致性.ashx

 

[9] http://www.icaew.com/~/媒介/文件/技术/审计-以及鉴证/审计-质量/审计-质量-论坛/回忆-笔记-2010/对银行的审计-危机中吸取教训-201075日,ashx

[10] http://www.icaew.com/~/ 媒体/文件/技术/金融服务/技术公司11129-对各银行的审计

 

CROSS BORDER AUDIT QUALITY

 

 

Ladies and Gentlemen,

Thank you to CICPA

 

ICAEW has 138,000 members in 160 countries around the world. Its a world leader in accountancy and finance, and our members work in practice and in business. So Audit is very relevant to our members.  

 

Im talking today about cross border audit quality, and the challenges and opportunities it presents.

 

And my talk today was sparked by a particular concern.

 

As this audience will know, in the US the number of  law suits brought against Chinese companies listed in the US has escalated over the past few years from one  in 2009 to 39 in 2011, around 1/3 of all securities law suits.

 

I want to talk today a bit about these cases and the USs reaction and then go on to talk about, from an ICAEW perspective, what this may mean and, from our experience, what can perhaps be done about it.

 

Allegations of fraud are always an uncomfortable subject, but fraud has been around since people began buying and selling goods to one another.

 

The case that you’re probably most familiar with is Shanghai-based Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu CPA Ltd which resigned from auditing Longtop Financial Technologies Limited last year. I understand the US SEC is pursuing Deloitte for failing to produce documents relating to Longtop..

 

Two more examples are China MediaExpress Holdings Inc[1] , and  Sino-Forest Corp,[2].

 

The question is why have so many come at once?

 

This focus on Chinese companies is having rather unwelcome consequences,

-          both for Chinese companies stock prices  - late last year some 58 Chinese companies faced de-listing in the US because their share prices and market cap had fallen significantly, and investors were betting against them (shorting)[3]; -  

-          and for Chinese companies wishing to list in the US, and their auditors, which might now be facing rather stringent regulation.

 

One reaction in the US has been to start cracking down so-called reverse mergers[4], through which many Chinese companies have entered the US listings market. In June last year the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission told investors that reverse merger companies may carry an increased risk of fraud and other abuses, and have been tightening up the listing standards for companies that use them to go public[5]. And in January this year the FBI raided the offices of  New York Global Group, a company which arranges reverse mergers for Chinese companies

 

The PCAOB (Public Company Accounting Oversight Board) is looking at inspecting audit firms of Chinese issuers of U.S. securities or banning uninspected Chinese audit firms from working for U.S. registrants. 

 And is looking to reach a pact with the China Securities Regulatory Commission to allow for joint inspections of Chinese audit firms as soon as the end of 2012

 

The recent spate of bad news stories is pretty bad publicity for Chinese companies. Not all of them relate to reverse mergers.

 

For example the free internet security software company, Qihoo 360, which was shorted after a negative research report by Citron Research And its interesting seeing how the company dealt with it with a positive campaign of information[6]. At the moment the stock seems to be climbing back up again[7].

 

Of course its clear from experience around the world that when there is one Accounting scandal, others usually follow.

 

Enron was a classic case in kind.

 

The wave effect that followed Enron as dozens of companies were charged with accounting fraud -  seemed to be because the spotlight was suddenly on the profession, and therefore things that would have gone unobserved come to light. Something perhaps that no regulator was aware of before. So regulators, journalists, and industry insiders start to put in more time on risk management and on checking.

 

So we may just be seeing that kind of wave of Chinese companies. 

 

Of course, such cases may simply expose misunderstanding between two countries, with different rules around audit and accounting, and perhaps different understandings of how to interpret standards.

 

If thats the case, perhaps its quite a timely wake-up-call.  

 

After all, vigilance and transparency are critical for the Accounting profession and for good audits.  Ignorance of the law is no excuse. So any company seeking to list overseas must get advice on exactly what rules it is committing itself to. And rules in the US around listing are pretty complex.

 

I think CICPA has commented that when Chinese companies enter the American market through reverse takeovers, partly because they are dealt with by small firms, they dont always get the financial advice they need. Perhaps thats an argument for greater convergence between the US and China over accounting rules.

 

I think its also fair to say that the Audit profession in China is young less than 30 years old, and that it is developing and learning all the time. Cross border audits do throw up some difficult issues. The more experienced the accounting professionals are, the less likely they are to make mistakes. Continuing to raise knowledge of international business and standards is therefore key.

 

And learning goes two ways. Foreign investors in China will be unfamiliar with some issues in China (mainly lack of disclosure) such as

-          lack of independent verification of titles with relevant authorities

-          asset titles given to banks as collateral for private loans to related parties without proper disclosure

-          off balance sheet transactions (e.g. Put options)

-          use of funds from capital raising for purposes not disclosed on listing

 

Market perception is important for China, of course, but ultimately the best way to improve market perception is probably to invest in improving the governance of companies and transparent financial reporting.

 

This approach might help stop investors shorting your company.

 

After all, if investors have all the information to hand, they (and other investors) will see that your stock is worthwhile.

 

And I say that from experience.

 

Audit is a necessary plank in good financial management and corporate governance.

 

 Auditors and their regulators in the UK and EU US have also faced fairly stiff criticism over the past few years, particularly after the banking crisis in the UK.

 

Theres legislation on its way in the UK and EU on Audit, which will change how practices operate in Europe. And also affect the regulation of the profession, in particular the role of the Big 4

 

For the UK profession, its been an opportunity to take a self-critical look at ourselves.

 

ICAEW has done a lot of work on improving audit quality, and our work in this area actually started back in

2002, just as our last boom was starting - and Id like to share some of this with you.

 

In 2002, we worked with British Government on creating an Audit Quality Forum

Our Publications include the highly-regarded one on International Consistency issued in October 2010[8]

(

The paper looks at how the IAASB standards are applied internationally and expose some limitations in the standards themselves, the way that auditors and audited entities work together and the ability of auditors to identify and address risks of material misstatement.

 

This paper recognises that achieving audit quality in any national environment is challenging and that no countrys culture guarantees either success or failure.

 

It identifies five features of national environments that affect audited financial statements:

political, economic and business environment;

legal framework;

education;

culture; and

perceptions of audit.

 

This paper suggests practical solutions to help deal with these challenges. Four areas for action that auditors, business, investors, standard-setters, regulators and governments and other organisations might take around the world. And here they are:

 

1)  Share experience to help to develop a consistent vision of audit quality, including providing greater opportunities for international secondments, exchange and education programmes and discussion forums..

2)  Acknowledge national differences within international standards. This means that standards would both: place more emphasis on how national differences (eg, as reflected in country indices) affect audit risk; and support auditors in exercising professional judgement to address misstatement risks in ways that suit the national environment in which those risks arise.

3)  Promote the role of audit in economic development.

4) Support research into national differences in audit.

 

One example of ICAEW working to promote cross-border audit quality is in issuing a set of online training videos examining professional scepticism and other key audit issues.

Featuring short talks by one of our regulators, the Professional Oversight Board chairman John Kellas, based upon audit inspection findings, as well as by ICAEW audit experts, the videos are intended to help with training and reinforce best practice.

 

 The videos are free to look at and can be found on our website (http://www.icaew.com/en/technical/audit-and-assurance/professional-scepticism.)

 

We have a busy Audit and Assurance Faculty which produces publications and technical guidance for example on ISA implementation, quality control, related parties and group audits

 

In 2010 we published a very well regarded report called Audit of Banks: Lessons from the Crisis, which examines the key issues and where there was room for improvement[9].

 

The recommendations that came out are many, but let me pick out the main ones:

-          In financial reports for banks, risk information should be presented in one place, perhaps through audited summary risk statements

-          There should be a guide to good practice in audit committee reporting.

-          Banks should confirm that key areas of judgement discussed with auditors are set out in the critical accounting estimates and judgements disclosures in the financial statements.

-          Auditors should also have more involvement in reporting on the front sections of annual reports.

-          And finally, there needs to be better and more frequent dialogue between auditors and bank supervisors

 

And our most recent report, last week, is on Enhancing the Dialogue Between Bank Auditors and Audit Committees.

-          It looks at striking an appropriate balance between cooperation and challenge, ensuring that issues are discussed fully

-          It also discusses the critical importance of publishing any challenges by the auditors and their resolution in other words producing evidence that professional scepticism was used

-          and recommends using clear language that anyone can understand when reporting the results of an audit[10].

 

 

 

Of course, Cross border quality initiatives, originally kick-started by Sarbanes Oxley, have been taken forward and developed by many countries around the world.

 

The EC has developed the process of monitoring in its Statutory Audit Directive 2006 requiring monitoring regimes across all countries in the EU. The recent EC Transposition Report (February 2012) confirms the success of that approach - though the draft proposals on auditing now seek to strengthen that oversight further.

 

Oversight bodies have started to recognise each other across the world and the EC in its Transposition Report noted that Australia, Canada, China, Croatia, Japan, Singapore, South Africa, South Korea, Switzerland and the United States of America exercise oversight controls and monitoring equivalent to those applying in the EU, whilst a further 20 countries are in the process of developing such regimes that are likely to match the investor protection requirements of the EC.

 

This cross-border cooperation is ensuring a consistent oversight and monitoring programme is helping to raise audit quality standards around the globe.

 

This kind of cross-border cooperation will I think be key to improving audit quality, along with an emphasis on training and best practice within the countries involved.

 

Conclusion

 

Ive given you a quick overview of some of the issues in the UK and how we have dealt with audit quality and some challenges to the European audit profession.

 

I think its worth reflecting that the audit profession in China is very young, and that the process of listing in other countries is fairly new. I am sure that the challenges in the market that we are seeing now in both our countries can and will be overcome.

 

In the UK, we believe that transparency and working closely with regulators is the key to market confidence.

 

Of course, investors are still flocking to China in large numbers, and the economic growth rate here speaks for itself!

 

Thank you.  

 

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[1] . http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-14/china-mediaexpress-cfo-resigns-auditor-calls-for- which was dropped by its auditors Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu last March, and was delisted by Nasdaq at the end of last year investigation.html

[2] http://www.sinoforest.com/dataroom.asp audited by Ernst & Young, which was accused of Accounting fraud by independent researcher Muddy Waters last year then commissioned an independent investigation by PwC. A class lawsuit against the company was launched in 2012

[3]

[4] -    -      A reverse merger is a transaction in which a company essentially purchases a nearly defunct but publicly-traded company. By structuring the deal as a merger, the acquiring entity steps into the shoes of the company that has already issued shares. Thus, the purchaser, itself, becomes a public company while avoiding the requirements of an initial public offering.  

-      Because many view reverse merger companies with suspicion, it is not surprising that so many companies listed in the U.S. through a reverse merger face legal difficulties – no matter where they are headquartered. Reverse merger companies, many would say, often merit scrutiny because they are presumptively faltering or questionable companies.

-      A SHORT-LIVED “BOOM”?

-      Yet another school of thought posits that the “boom” in Chinese securities fraud litigation will be short-lived. There are, after all, only 200 or so Chinese companies with stock trading on U.S. exchanges.

-      According to Cornerstone Research, between 2007 and March 2010, only 150 Chinese companies became U.S. securities issuers through reverse mergers. An even smaller number of Chinese companies – only 56 – made U.S. initial public offerings in the same time period.2  

[5] http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-27/new-york-global-group-s-wall-street-office-searched-by-fbi-agent-says.html

[6] http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/qihoo-360-responds-to-citron-research-report-133030163.html

[7] http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=QIHU

[8] http://www.icaew.com/~/media/Files/Technical/Audit-and-assurance/audit-quality/audit-quality-forum/audit-quality-international-consistency.ashx

 

[9] http://www.icaew.com/~/media/Files/Technical/Audit-and-assurance/audit-quality/audit-quality-forum/meeting-notes-2010/audit-of-banks-lessons-from-the-crisis-5-jul-2010.ashx

[10] http://www.icaew.com/~/media/Files/Technical/Financial-services/tecplm11129-webaudit-banks

 

 

 

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